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Big spoilers to come! Not since Avengers: Endgame have we seen a comic book movie so loaded with cameos as Spider-Man: No Path Home. A moving tribute to Peter Parker himself, the film is chock-full of appearances from long-gone villains, former Spider-Mans (Spider-Men?), And even a very recognizable blind lawyer. Basically, it’s a movie as much about Tom Holland’s Spider-Man as it is about Spider-Man’s onscreen legacy, right down to the two-post credit scenes, which offer a glimpse of where his two Custodial parents, Disney and Sony, plan to move out of here. Let’s dive into it.
In No way homethe first post-credits scene of, we see the continuation of a moment that actually started in Venom: let there be carnagepost-credits – which showed the moment the Doctor Strange spell teleported Tom Hardy’s Eddie Brock to the MCU. Here, we catch up with Eddie, who is drinking and making his incomprehensible mumble (subtitles on all the movies WHEN) with a bartender in a plunge bar. He asks the bartender to tell him about the “great people” who live here and expresses doubt about Thanos’ real existence – to which the bartender refutes: “Señor, he made my family disappear for five years.” Just as Eddie decides he should go to New York to talk to these great people, he’s called back to his own world, just like every other character who has walked through the waltz in the wake of Doctor Strange’s botched curse. But a drop of Venom’s symbiote goo is left behind, and it moves before the screen goes black.
Phew, it’s complicated. It all goes back to Sony and Disney’s 2014 “Content license agreement” who decides how Spider-Man and his pals will appear in the MCU. The deal is a quid pro quo situation, meaning that if Spider-Man does appear in the MCU, the MCU will lend one of its characters for the standalone. Spider Man movies, like Iron Man and now Doctor Strange. The two corporate giants appear to be in constant talks about it – their deal fell apart in 2019 before Holland himself literally begged them to make matters better – and as a result, the two companies haven’t always been on the same page when it comes to telling fans what’s next.
Essentially, while VenomThe post-credits scene hinted that Hardy’s Eddie is now part of the MCU, No way homeThe mate scene from us tells us he’s probably not. Which should come as no surprise, given that Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has always said that while Spider-Man is their common baby, “complementary” properties like Venom (and Morbius, probably) are not interconnected with the MCU, although Sony Pictures president Amy Pascal said there was “always a chance” that they were. Of course, that could change in the future, but for now it seems very helpful that Eddie was fired like everyone else, right before Strange shut it all down. Considering that the spell required immense sacrifice on Peter’s part, it wouldn’t make much narrative sense to go back just for another Hardy cameo.
Yes, so the most likely answer to this conundrum is that while Hardy isn’t in the MCU, the symbiote itself might not be out of the question. Maybe Venom will eventually find a new host in the MCU, like another Eddie, or Flash Thompson, or Peter Parker himself, just like in Marvel’s popular 1985. Secret wars Course. It’s pretty much all in the air right now, as discussions are still ongoing as to whether there will be more movies featuring Holland.
Technically, yes. Sony and Disney initially agreed on six films: three stand-alone Spider Man movies and three cameos in other MCU movies. Yes No way home Reads like a farewell to Holland’s Spider-Man, that’s because in a way it is: by the time of filming, Holland’s contract was ending.
Since then, however, there have been a series of mixed messages. In a November 17 GQ profile, Holland thought he didn’t want to play Spider Man when he is 30 years old. (Holland is currently 25.) On November 29, Sony President Amy Pascal told Fandango that they were planning the next trilogy of Spider Man movies with Holland, but Disney hasn’t announced anything similar. And in December, Sony CEO Tom Rothman refuted Pascal’s statement, telling Variety that “my dear sister in arms Amy is a very optimistic person” but “nothing has been determined”. So until they come to a solid agreement on new terms, basically yes, the Holland Spider-Man universe is on hold.
Oh, you mean the trailer? It’s literally just a trailer for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. Like Holland said GQ, Certainly not Homepage was supposed to release after Doctor Strange 2, which probably would have introduced the multiverse in its place. But when this film was delayed due to COVID, it was decided that No way home would go first – forcing director Jon Watts and his crew to change No way homethe plot and the dialogues during the shooting. This resulted in No way home feeling a bit confused (but to be clear, still fun!), and based on the teaser, Doctor Strange 2 very well may have a similar problem.
Many! We hear Strange’s line from No way home, in which he says they have “altered the stability of space-time” and “the multiverse is a concept we know awfully little about.” We then hear someone say that Strange’s “desecration of reality will not go unpunished.” Strange says “that was the only way”, but he “never wanted any of this to happen.” Then we see shots of the Sanctum, Christine Palmer’s wedding, queer latina superheroine America Chavez (played by Xochitl Gomez) and Wanda Maximoff, who lives in the woods after the WandaVision disaster. Strange tells Wanda that he knows Westview, but that he’s here because he needs help with something multiverse related. We then see Mordo by Chiwetel Ejiofor and Benedict Wong in Wong (which, as a reminder, revealed in No way home that he is now Sorcerer Supreme), who tells Strange that “the greatest threat to our universe is you.” Cue the reveal of what appears to be Strange Supreme from the animation What if…? series, who shrugs and says, “Things just got out of hand.” We also see Wanda with an orb, doing magical tricks in a new scarlet witch costume.
That means you should watch Disney + WandaVision and What if…? if you haven’t already, unless you want to be really confused before entering Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. (Lucky for you, they’re both really good shows.) It also suggests that Wanda won’t be this movie’s villain, debunking one popular theory after a supposed leak. And if this is truly Strange Supreme from the animated series, that means things are going to get very weird very quickly, and whatever happens, it will likely have some truly cosmic consequences for the rest of the MCU.